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Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade

July 31, 2025 • Dara Valcour and Emily Kievra

SWAMP regular Erin, cousin of Dara, joins us to end Spielberg month with a Last Crusade.

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I shouted out a chocolate chip cookie recipe in this episode that I now realize is behind a paywall (boo) so I am pasting it below:

Ingredients

Yield: 10 cookies

2cups/256 grams all-purpose flour
½teaspoon baking soda
¾teaspoon salt
½pound/227 grams unsalted butter (2 sticks), room temperature
1½cups/302 grams granulated sugar
¼cup/55 grams packed light or dark brown sugar
1egg
1½teaspoons pure vanilla extract
6ounces/170 grams bittersweet chocolate (about 60 percent cacao solids), chopped into coarse pieces, bits and shards

Preparation

Step 1

Adjust an oven rack to the middle position. Line 2 baking sheets with aluminum foil, parchment paper or nonstick baking mats.

Step 2

In a small bowl, whisk the flour, baking soda and salt.

Step 3

In the bowl of a stand mixer fitted with a paddle, beat the butter on medium until creamy. Add the granulated and brown sugars and beat on medium until light and fluffy, 2 to 3 minutes. Add the egg, vanilla and 2 tablespoons water, and mix on low to combine. Add the flour mixture, and mix on low until combined. Add the chocolate and mix on low into the batter. (At this point, the dough can be refrigerated for several hours or overnight.)

Step 4

Heat the oven to 350 degrees. Form the dough into 3½-ounce (100-gram) balls (a heaping ⅓ cup each). Place 4 balls an equal distance apart on a prepared pan, and transfer to the freezer for 15 minutes before baking. After you put the first baking sheet in the oven, put the second one in the freezer.

Step 5

Place the chilled baking sheet in the oven and bake 10 minutes, until the cookies are puffed slightly in the center. Lift the baking sheet and let it drop down against the oven rack, so the edges of the cookies set and the inside falls back down. (This will feel wrong, but trust me.) Bang it down, if necessary, to make the center fall.

Step 6

After the cookies puff up again, 2 to 3 minutes later, repeat lifting and dropping the pan, every 3 minutes, to create ridges around the edge of the cookie. Bake 16 to 18 minutes total, until the cookies have spread out, and the edges are golden brown, but the centers are much lighter and not fully cooked.

Step 7

Transfer the baking sheet to a wire rack; let cool before removing the cookies from the pan.

Step 8

Repeat with remaining cookies, using the first sheet pan for the third batch of cookies.

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The SWAMP (00:00.226)
Nazis? I hate those guys. Did I get it? Is that what he said? Yeah, that's exactly what he says. That's exactly it. And it still rings true today. Erin just said before we hopped on, back in our day, it was cool to hate Nazis. So let's keep that up. Yeah. Punch your local Nazi. Erin, is here a third voice I should introduce because we're doing a show. It's our show. It's our podcast. It's an acronym. Sanctus for My Cast Movie Podcasting.

Is that not normally how I tee you up? I've forgotten everything. You yeah, we a week off and you're like, god, I don't know who I am anymore. You just say it's the swamp. It's the swamp. It's our podcast. It's an acronym. Sanchez and Wack-Ass Movie Podcast, essentially. But anyways, we have a special guest again this week because as previously mentioned, if you've been listening to Spielberg June, July.

July is my day. I don't even know. I don't know where I am. I don't know what month it is. Where are we? We had several calls in personal phone calls and I said, yo, Indiana Jones, we're penciling days in. We're marking it on the calendar. And so the Swamp's unofficial legal counsel, my cousin Erin is here as per is her right. There are some movies that people in our lives are like, hey,

Bookmark on that one. Ain't no one else taking that but me. That shit is mine. There's a couple of movies that I'm like, I know, like we can't do X without this person. this one was definitely up there for you. I feel as well as the Da Vinci Code will be sometime in the future. Eventually. We'll get to it. Yeah, that movie I heard. I'm just going to do the Knights Templar gauntlet between this national treasure and then the Da Vinci Code. Fuck yeah.

And so frequent swamp listeners will recognize Erin from such esteemed episodes as Cinderella story, Knives Out, National Treasure. And yeah, common theme here as we move through with Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade. I had never seen this movie. What is your relationship with this movie in particular? Why is it like the one and just like Indiana Jones in general?

The SWAMP (02:14.124)
What's your vibe with it? gosh, Indiana Jones was so formative for me. I probably saw it for the first time when I was nine or 10 years old. Perfect. I was definitely traumatized by the second one. You know, the heart ripping was a bit much at the age of nine. That was all I retained from any Indiana Jones that was exposed to me as a child. The only thing I took away was like, wasn't that...

vaguely racist and kind of gross. I can't believe that's the one you saw. That's crazy. Yeah. Fun fact, Steven Spielberg and George Lucas both going through divorces during the making of that film. That makes sense. It makes a lot of sense. I think Harrison Ford was probably the first man I ever remember being attracted to. So this was my, my sexual awakening, so to speak. was either him or Viggo Mortensen in Lord of the Rings.

Toss up on which one I saw first. amazing choices. Yeah, same flavor of rugged action adventure hero. Yeah, man's Definitely that early formative. I think about the princess bride too. That early formative in your mind, you're like, oh, and he's hot too. And he's hot. He's so pretty. I've seen this before, but this time it's a little different. Yeah, he in this movie, Harrison Ford, is 47.

here and Sean Connery who plays his dad is only 12 years older than him in real life and I was like what the hell that's not your dad because they fuck the same woman and I'm like yeah that checks like that wasn't that weird of a plot line we just sort of have that and we just sort of move on from it but I'm like they are not even really that different in age or like they're kind of the same flavor of hot you know well of course but my favorite thing is that Indiana Jones scolds his father telling him he's like she's

you're old enough to be your daughter, like yes, we should be calling out the 70 year old men that are going for 20, you know what I mean, like obviously. Well, I don't know Emily, cause she was a Nazi. So I don't really think it matters in the end, you know? I think she was just trying to wiggle her way. Well, obviously, obviously. She was a nefarious woman. He let himself be swindled though.

The SWAMP (04:29.71)
I can't imagine that he tried very hard to say no. But Erin, is this your favorite of the, I was going to call it a trilogy, but there are like five of them, right? Unfortunately. we don't anything past this one, right? I don't know what you mean. There's only three. Exactly. There's only three. I haven't heard of, there's, yes. No. Never heard of her. There is no Warren Bossling say there is no fourth or fifth Indiana Jones movie. But yeah, this is your favorite you'd say or.

Because I know a lot of people, we had this discussion with your brother Ryan, Emily about the dichotomy between loving both one and three and ignoring two. one lays a lot of good foundational groundwork for like who is Indiana Jones? What is this franchise about? This is going to be a lot of fun. But I think this movie, I enjoyed more like as a film, like to sit down and watch it. I think I found the story more compelling.

I liked the relationship with his dad a little bit more than like the half-baked romance we got. thank God. the first one, you know? So I just, found this one to be like a more enjoyable film, but I could see how someone would recognize the first one as being like the paragon of the trilogy to like embody the whole thing. Yeah, I would say- But I did, I would agree with you, Erin. I did think this was a better movie. I think my favorite thing about this one is just like-

I feel like the first one is like the boys movie. And then this one's like, it's the boys movie. You know what I mean? Like it's heartfelt, but it's also pretty goofy. I feel like with this one, I can feel a lot more of George Lucas popping out. Do you know what I mean? Cause it's a little silly. I would say it's sillier. Yeah. feel like Spielberg brings like the drama and the action and everything like that. But like, I don't know, like watch, I'm sorry, but watching Sean Connery shoot that machine gun in the plane.

I was giggling the whole time. There was so much more like hijinks in this. Cause did George Lucas do the prequels right after this? Cause this is 1989. When did the first Star Wars prequel come out? much? 99, 10 years later. years will have passed. Yeah. Okay. I feel like he put a lot of his George O.C. in this. agree. I thought it was like more like slapstick comedy funny, like Looney Tunes.

The SWAMP (06:45.656)
type funny. Yeah, like the plane sliding through the tunnel was hysterical. So funny. Yeah, a lot of moments like that I thought were like lighter, whereas I felt like in Temple of Doom, sometimes the movie started taking itself a little too seriously. Whereas this movie, mean, which while we have Nazis, and could you ever take yourself seriously making the Temple of Doom? That's a crazy set and it's in itself. But I felt like this one.

Yeah, this one, like I felt I could breathe and be a little bit sillier almost because it was like a retribution for the second movie. I feel like he was like, we really fucked it up last time. So let's just get back to what works. Swing the other direction. Hey, I'm sorry about that. He's like, let's look at number one. What worked? Let's do more of that, which is why I think it worked out. Right. Like we even get the intro is like the exact fucking same. He's like, I have on my glasses and I'm a teacher and that's something you should believe. And then a guy comes in and is like,

We have to talk to you and he's like, ooh, now I'm cool and sexy. love Aaron you sent to us in a chat before this, a Tumblr post that just like fully, I'll put the link in the description, but it just like fully encapsulated this sort of dichotomy where,

Dr. Henry Jones becomes his slut sona. Yes, that is Indiana Jones. he just like, and he's got a hat and a leather jacket and a whip and the glasses come off and the bow tie comes off and he's going to fucking yeah, have his titties out, but just like get the job done. Everyone's like, we're business professionals here. And he's like, well, you're just going to have to deal with the fact that I'm going to do, you know, a rope swing.

We're gonna be scaling buildings. It's gonna get real. Guys, I gotta get this out of my system while I can, all right? Just let me be a little fun with it. Let us do a couple of car chases. We have to get in every kind of vehicle at least once. on. Of course. Boat chase. Loved the boat chase as well. Well, yeah, wait. I know, Erin, you're the professional here, but, Dara, you had never seen this one. You hadn't seen either of Yes. I want to hear your first impressions. Of this whole movie? Yeah. Yeah, really, I...

The SWAMP (08:55.244)
I really enjoyed it. I was really shocked at Sean Connery. I didn't really realize how much he was gonna be in this and what his role would be. to find out that he's like a Paddington bear ass fucking like oafish silly professor guy, but like also, you know, the like looming father figure of Indiana Jones was just like so, so silly. I also like love the sort of

idea of him still being like James Bond and James Bond birthing Indiana Jones is a creative process that truly that happened. But he's not acting like James Bond. He's acting like a professor. He was cracking me up this whole fucking movie. I will admit there's something, a little seed that got planted in my head that really just made me kick my feet and giggled the whole time, kind of added a little extra layer.

There was just something he said in his Sean Connery ass Scottish way that just was giving the energy of a Cher line delivery to me. so then I watched the whole rest of the movie thinking like how would it's Cher instead, you know? She's like, oh, the floor's on fire. Like.

Sean Connery saying like, snap out of it. know, kind of said, shh. They have the same kind of shh, like, you know, back of the throat S sound going on. God. Yes. So like I watched Sean Connery and full role reversal. that would be brilliant. Who would you cast as Indiana Jones alongside Cher? No, and then this is we go back in time. If I could turn back.

time, okay? I would use the money that Amazon gave to Phoebe Waller-Bridge and we're doing the remake, but it's the mother-daughter Indiana Jones story. And it's about Phoebe Waller-Bridge and her mom Cher. And Cher is like her glamorous professor mother. And she's like, I'm rugged and I want to do it my way. And then they have to work together. Boom. Boom. There's a slop sequel for you. on, pick up the phone.

The SWAMP (11:11.468)
No, but they had to make the Dial of Destiny, whatever that was about. yeah, really. I didn't see that, but... Can I interject with a question here? So, the plot of the film is basically they're going after the Holy Grail. Harrison Ford's dad, Sean Connery, is a lifelong Holy Grail ontologist. He's been studying how to get to it, and he's gonna get to it, but then he goes missing.

Then Indiana Jones is like, I gotta find my dad. And he's trying to find his dad and everyone's like, you're looking for the Holy Grail. And he's like, I'm not looking for the Holy Grail. I'm looking for my dad who's looking for the Holy Grail. And it's like, okay, whatever, same thing. Getting chased, getting chased, romance, entanglement. Oh no, she's a Nazi. Ooh, she was on the bad side because they want, they want eternal life too. Okay, cool. And so then eventually we get there and we find the cup and you know, she gives the Nazi the wrong cup because Jesus was a simple man. He was a.

Obviously. would not have had a lavish cup. would have had the simple That's cup of a carpenter. The simple cup. I'm letting the sexy Nazi decide your fate is crazy work. Insane. What do you think was gonna happen? The wealthy Nazi sympathizer fully believed that Jesus Christ would have this gold jewel-encrusted cup, signifying that he is not pure of heart, he is not worthy.

and he deserves to get killed by the sexy Nazi. But then they find the right cup and they drink from the cup and Harrison Ford drinks from the cup and he does not die. And then he goes over to Sean Connery and he gives him a little sip and then he pours what appears to be hydrogen peroxide all over his open gunshot wound and it closes up and then the film sort of ends and we move forward and stuff. So do they not have eternal life?

They didn't get a drink from the cup and it cured the wound, but it didn't make them live forever. Because if the whole issue. Because it has to be in the inside the cave, right? So you have to stay in the case like the old night. He just stayed there. You can live forever. We have to stay in a fucking cave. Yep. So Hitler's plan wouldn't have worked at all. Nope, nope, not at all. Just like the the Raiders of the Lost Ark with the Ark of the Covenant. Indiana Jones's input.

The SWAMP (13:27.95)
you know, his conduct had no impact on the outcome of that movie. Like that was they were going to all melt to death anyway. Same thing here. Like Hitler would not have eternal life because he would have left the cave and it would have collapsed on him. Yeah. And boom, problem. World War Two solved right there. There we go. I was going to say. And that's how the film should have ended, right? It's that he's like, guess I stay in the, guess I'm going to kill myself in this bunker.

Boom. There you have it. But I felt like don't the subsequent and most notably the most recent Indiana Jones movie is like all dealing about how he's old and he's like, I got to find eternal life because I'm old. I'm like, did you not already find it? You literally found like the thing. That's usually that's like the one usually that, you know, people are going for just out of all of like human history generally. And you did clock it.

in movie three and you had it. So yeah, I feel like he's not trying to find eternal life in the subsequent fake films like four and five. He's not looking for eternal life. He's he's fighting retirement really. Which is, you know, maybe a little true of real life because why are you Red Hulk? My guy, please. Harrison Ford, please. If you're listening, you can take a break.

You don't need to be in the movies anymore. You can stay at home. You can do all money too. I'll talk to them. yeah, buddy. Relax. Red Hulk? He is doing great work in other stuff. Like he's in that therapy TV show with... What's his name? Jason Segel? Yes, yes, Shrinking. Yeah. I don't know about this. He's doing good acting. He doesn't need to... I don't understand. It's like jury duty. He got poked. He gotta be Red Hulk.

Yeah, I guess. Aaron, have you seen, not to pivot too hard, have you seen any of the new superhero movies that are available to us in the theaters at this moment? No. Four or Superman? I do intend to see Superman. I will see Superman at some point, but I have fallen off the Marvel train because I just, I got bored. I couldn't imagine trying to stay on it. It's so much. You just get flooded, especially Red Hulk.

The SWAMP (15:43.758)
Emily, did I talk about this in the podcast already about how it's not actually set in the sixties? It's set in an alternate universe of the sixties. That is the shit that literally, literally I returned my tickets. I had pre-sale tickets and I returned them. I was like, not, was like, I bought tickets to see at 10 AM on a Sunday and I was like, this is going to be great. And then I was like, I was like, you know what? We are not feeling this anymore.

I'm like, because there's no way that Superman and Fantastic Four are released at the same time. There's no way that they're both good. And I saw Superman and it was good. So I'm like, there's no way. I already, I got my fill. My superhero will be filled. I don't need to see this one now. Let me see where Fantastic Four is on Letterboxd. Oh, wait, let me connect some red string for everyone really quick. borderline. Please, please, give it to me. We're on the periphery of X the everything app here. So this is not...

know, qualifying news, but I've been getting like trickle trickle down. the Fantastic Four press tour, you know, all about how Pedro Pascal has been being criticized for being too touchy with his female co-stars. And everyone's like, and everyone's like, why are they so touchy? You're like, if I was that Vanessa Kirby's husband, like I wouldn't want him touching my wife like that. Commentary discourse, whatever a bunch of people like I'm sure a lot of it was rage bait like

whatever, but this whole thing. This weird campaign. Here's where it sort of, yeah, started getting weird is that then it starts all talking about, you know, then a bunch of people rise up in his defense and are like, clearly you just don't know what like a woman being comfortable around a man looks like, whatever. But then there was this wave of pushback to the pushback of these AI generated videos of Pedro Pascal, like grabbing women and like being more.

like this like, like exaggerating sort of the aggression. Yeah. And all these videos got flagged, you know, by comments being like, this is not real. This is AI. Like, here's the original video. Here's actually how he and they were. And so they trace this back. And they're coming from they're coming from this is the theory. And here's where we're connecting the red threads is we think that J.K. Rowling hired a PR agency to put out a fucking hit.

The SWAMP (18:08.554)
a social smear campaign hit on Pedro Pascal because he is a very vocal about trans rights. He has a trans sister, you know, participated in that Protect the Dolls campaign. Everyone was wearing those t-shirts. And so everyone's thinking that

JK Rowling is trying to do some sneaky because she's like literally controlling legislation over there and like getting bathroom laws reversed and shit. Like literally she's doing nasty fucking shit. And this sounds like something- Yeah, it's insane. It's disgusting. I believe that this could be true. Yeah. Oh, easily. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. That wouldn't shock me the slightest. She's tapped. JK Rowling's behavior is, yeah, the mold. Unhinged. You know about the mold?

I know about the mold. I'm very familiar with the mold theory. I don't know about the black. I don't know about the mold theory. J.K. Rowling has mold. That's why she's stupid. That's she's an idiot now. That's why she's fucking brain dead from mold exposure. Yeah, she had a profile picture where if you looked in the background of her profile picture was like of her kitchen or something and you could see black mold like creeping down from the ceiling.

The SWAMP (19:17.388)
Yeah. so fucking nasty. Ew. that doesn't shock me that she's a dirty bitch. A moldy. The mold literally made her go crazy. Yeah. But sometimes people can also just be transphobic. I'm not saying mold made her transphobic, but I am saying that's probably why she's always like tweeting. de-tapped.

all these erratic things. So anyways, that was my conspiracy corner over here about- Great one. No, I think you're- About JK Rowling. think you're entirely right, because I don't think I had ever seen any Pedro Pascal hate until that. No. And it seems all of this fabricated discourse, which specifically the Superman movie, everyone's responding with the gifts of the monkeys.

just churning out, you the monkeys making the rage bait. Like literally that's you. Like literally that's what's happening. Insane work, dude. my God. Like get a fucking life. That's crazy. Yeah, no. So are you not going to see Fantastic Four at all? You have no plans, I don't know. I don't know. Like if I get around to the theater, there's some other shit I want to see out now too that I want to go see Eddington, the new Ari Aster movie. See, I just don't, I'm not.

Really interested. I don't have any interest in reliving that period of time. Do you know what I mean? I am interested in what he has to say about it, because he... didn't see Bo as afraid, so I can't speak on that, but I just think he makes interesting movies. I really find... I don't love Wocky and Phoenix, honestly. He's kind of left a really bad taste in my mouth post-Joker and everything like that, so... Post him leaving that movie. Yes, that too. Holy shit. Yeah.

That was the big thing is that he like was literally up until the first day of shooting was signed on to be in this like queer love drama. Yeah, Todd Haynes. then, yeah, and then he like literally dropped out at the very last minute and fucked everyone over and like just used another project as an excuse. But it was like just really a shitty thing. Speaking of Joaquin Phoenix. please. River Phoenix. This is how we're gonna tie it back to. my god.

The SWAMP (21:24.334)
always comes back around. We need your big brain. Rest in peace, River Phoenix. He was 18 or 19 in this. He was 19 when it came out. So good. He has a reasonable age gap with Harrison Ford. So River Phoenix is 28 years younger than Harrison Ford, according to the math I did right before we hopped on. OK. So he could reasonably play

you know, either young Indiana Jones or, you know, Harrison Ford's son in a movie. Mm-hmm. Yeah, weren't they... Weren't they, um... Didn't they work on another project different movie. Yeah. That's why... Yeah. Okay, and they were like, okay, we need this kid for this. Yeah, I loved his curtain bangs. They were great. Oh, and the whole moment of running through the, like, zoo or, carnival... so good. ...cart, and, like, each cart has a different animal.

but then we got all the little lore too about like, this is why he's afraid of the snakes and he has the trauma with the snakes. Then he gets the whip because that's like the lion tamer's whip. And it was like the stupidest, silliest, looney tunes ass setup, but it's like, it's like a joke. And then we're going to hit like a lore like marker, right? And like tie it in with a joke. I thought that whole sequence was so, so good. entertaining. All the notes he was doing the voice.

And something I wrote down while I was rewatching, like, it just, this flashback, you know, intro origin story was just telling us, hey, this guy has always been exactly like this. The whole everybody's, everybody's lost but me line. was like, my God, you could hear Harrison Ford saying some of this crap easily. for sure. Yeah. I love it. And even just that one scene where he goes back home and talks to his dad and we don't see.

that we only see the shoulder or the back and we get that sort of like he's not even looking at him and he's like, count to 20, do it in Greek. was like a 45 second interaction or whatever that just like so perfectly teed up how they behave towards each other for the whole rest of the movie. Like screenwriting 101 shit right there. Like that was so fucking good because then as soon as Sean Connery popped up, you have that preconceived.

The SWAMP (23:41.378)
thing already, but then he's behaving the way he's behaving and you're like, wait, that's the guy you're scared of? Like that's hilarious. I love it though. But then he's a little scary sometimes too, you know, when we kind of get around to it he's intimidating. Yeah, and he's a smart man. But yeah, no, the, my God, the moment that he crashed through the window and then he like pops up from that fall and he goes, yes, sir. my God. Yeah.

yeah, calling him sir the whole time and the junior sir dynamic. Yeah, will say I'm a little jealous of Elsie. I can't lie. Honestly, Sean Connery in this. I get it. of them. Both of them. Both the Jones boys. My god. I think that's why it

We were kind of all willing to look past it, you know, when we get to the awkward confrontation about like, it's awkward, that's gross, Sean Connery, don't be gross, she's young. No, it's kind of like, no, because I would do it. Yeah, but didn't Sean Connery improvise that line, that she talks in her sleep? Allegedly, yes, that is a common story. I've heard that he improvised that line.

Yeah, so I'd like to think that that whole thing was that entire. But it's also like so real though, because it's like if I was his hot young assistant and my hot boss was Sean Connery, like yeah, duh. For sure. That's James Bond, like he can get it for sure. And he's still quick with it, that's the thing. I I love the scene where he uses the birds to.

fight off the fighter jet. I'm gonna quote Charlemagne in my Sean Connery accent and it's gonna be great. It's gonna sound a little bit like Cher if you think about it. It's perfect. If you think about it. No, when he uses his umbrella to rile the birds and then the birds cause a full on plane explosion. Yeah. That was so funny. That is when we're like

The SWAMP (25:42.174)
living in a reality on par with Looney Tunes. We could draw a circle on the wall and go through it. We're operating on that level of a physical space. Silly. Speaking of Looney Tunes, has anyone heard of this new, what is it, Acme versus Coyote movie or whatever movie? The John Cena thing, yeah. This shit isn't new. This has been going on. I don't know the lore of this. Well, that's why I'm coming to you because...

looked it up like half-heartedly today. I need you to fill me in, Dara. It's just, as far as I know, what is it? Looney Tunes is owned by Warner Brothers. Warner Brothers is owned by whatever they, by withholding the release of the movie, they have just been able to use it as like tax write-offs. So they benefit more from, financially, by just like suspending the production.

or whatever of this film that is fully done and ready to go. And the people who made the movie are like, we would love to release the movie. And they just won't do it because of like financial reasons. Because of business. And it's really fucking stupid because it's like art that was paid to get made and got made. And they're like, we made a movie. And then they were like, okay, nope. God.

This industry is I don't know about John Cena. What does John Cena have to do with? I have no idea. I he's just in it, right? I thought he was in the movie. Yeah. Yeah, I think he's just in it. So I have some lore, not to change the subject, about the lady who plays Elsa in this movie. Okay. Alison Doody. So she...

Haha, duty. You said duty. I said duty. She made her acting debut as a Bond girl in A View to Kill, which is a Roger Moore James Bond movie, and later went on to play Elsa in this movie. So I wonder if that contributed to the joke of her sleeping with James Bond. that's so good. Yeah. I wouldn't have passed. I wouldn't put it past them to...

The SWAMP (27:42.466)
do like a sneaky little Easter egg like that, like purposefully get the former Bond girl, you know, to play that sort of role in this re-imagine of that sort of franchise. she is such a Bond girl. Holy shit. She is 24 years younger than Harrison Ford, which would make her about 36 years younger than Sean Connery. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Not That sounds all right. But like I said, she was revealed to be a Nazi, if not

you know, just Nazi sympathizer, Nazi adjacent. She was like, I don't like that they burn books. And it's like, well, girl, you're at the burn book, book burning ceremony. So, and you're, you know, doing St. Kyle with everyone else. So I don't know. yourself into this mess. and actions, my girl. Exactly. Exactly. You're standing up there crying, but you're still standing up there. OK, Jen, I need you to call me Junior and then I'm going to get really upset about it. OK? OK, Junior.

hate it when you call me that, because you're my dad. That was me doing Harrison Ford, responding to Jen as the role of Sean Connery. Beautiful job. You've landed the audition, Jen. Thank Thank you for being here to host your interim podcast segment, Chocolate or Vanilla. You're going to say two things. We're all going to say which one we like better. For clarification of answering order, Jen will say the thing. I will respond. Emily will then respond. Special guest Erin will then respond.

Jen, we'll close it out and then we'll move on. We love it. Jen, how are you doing today and is there a theme this week? I am pretty good and the theme is no particular theme. Lots of Spielberg, lots of food.

Hell yes. Spielberg and food. Right, Love it. That's the kind of day I'm having today. I had fudge for dinner. I want fudge for dinner. I had hamburger helper and then smashed two big chocolate chip cookies. It was awesome. Nice. What's your favorite kind of fudge? I am partial to a peanut butter. I love a peanut butter fudge. feel like fudge is already kind of that texture where I would usually be annoyed by peanut butter because it's kind of clogging everything up. We're already doing that with fudge, so it's not like...

The SWAMP (29:54.638)
The peanut butter isn't adding a clogginess that it typically would. So I would go for a peanut butter fudge. But we went to the fudge place. We went down to the Cape and it's, you know, a lot of like vacation, a touristy stuff and everywhere sells fudge. And we went into this place and we're like, let's get some fudge, you know, to eat. But then we're like, this looks so fire. Let's, we just kept saying, he was like, Oh, you're at two pounds. And when you get two pounds, you've got.

the third pound for free. And we were like, oh great, a third pound of fudge. And so we ate some of it, but then we boxed like a ton of it up and gave it to the person who watched our cats while we were away. And I was like, this is like actually an absurd amount of fudge for a single person to be receiving. But I knew this man and I knew that he would be appreciative of.

high quantities of fudge, which he was. So I've had a fudgy weekend anyways. Wait Jen, what's everyone else's favorite flavor of fudge? Now I wanna know. I would probably, like I would never say no to any kind of fudge. Sure. But

Dara's not gonna like this, but I like the kind that's like half chocolate, half mint. Yeah, I can see that for you. My dad used to like panucci. I love panucci. Panucci? That's my favorite. I just had a dark chocolate raspberry fudge when I was in New York and it was very, very fancy tasting and it was very good. That sounds sludgy. It was good, yeah. Rich and delicious. Very nice. Chocolate or vanilla? We're talking about fudge. I gotta be...

On chocolate. I'm gonna go chocolate too right now now that we're on it. I'm gonna have to go chocolate. Yeah, we kind of got off on the right note for it. Honestly, gotta go chocolate too. Vanilla fudge, not that good. That's not real. That's not a thing. White chocolate is not real. Well, yeah, but that's also not vanilla. Yeah, white chocolate is not vanilla. Yeah. I'm not actually sure what it is.

The SWAMP (31:49.742)
Honestly. Good point. Different cocoa beans. got albino cocoa beans that taste like shit. And somebody said, let's turn a coin. All right. First one. BFG or Hook to Spielberg movies. I've never seen the BFG, but I did read the book as a kid and I was a fan of the book. We love... wait, we don't love Roald Dahl because he is...

problematic anti-semitic, right? We covered this with our good friends on the Wonka Watch podcast when we talked about... When we talked about Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. What did we talk about anyways? Chitty Bang Bang. Yeah, that fucking car movie. anyways, shout out to the Wonka Watch podcast, which has since dismantled and I now believe they...

do something else, because it was all about a podcast leading up to the Willy Wonka remake movie, which is just a hilarious thing to do in and of itself. But I'll pick Hook. I love Hook. Somebody in the comments said that we should do it this month, and we're not going to get to it this month, but we will eventually. It's on the list. Yeah, I'm also definitely going Hook on this one. I just love Len Colossus' cameo specifically. Yeah, I'm picking Hook.

Yeah, same. I'm picking hooked with the stacked cast that it has. Caprese salad or a grilled romaine Caesar salad? Grilled romaine is edging a little too close to what would be typically a wedge, colloquially, manually known as the wedge. know, we're doing these huge.

These huge like halves of romaine lettuce that are grilled, I kind of know what you're talking about. it's not even romaine, that's the thing. No, because that's the fucked up thing. It's not romaine, right? It's iceberg lettuce. Because romaine doesn't grow like that, right? Isn't it iceberg lettuce? That's just even worse. I don't know, man. But it's seeming too much like a wedge salad for my level of comfort.

The SWAMP (33:54.67)
So I'm gonna pick the caprese, even though I don't really like how wet and slimy tomatoes are, I do love basil and I love cheese. Yeah, I just, I don't know. I feel like that would just leave my romaine hot. Do you know what I mean? Is that how it comes? I've never had it don't want a hot salad. I want a hot salad. No, that doesn't speak to It has grill marks like a steak. I can understand if you...

like let it cool down after that, but if I'm like, I don't want hot lettuce. Yeah, that's not for me. I'm gonna go, I'll go caprese. I'm not 100 % sure what a caprese salad is off the top of my head. I think I have a picture of it in my mind, but I'm not sure if it's right. Tomato, mozzarella, basil.

Balsamic. Okay, yeah, I can go for that. was victimized by a wedge salad earlier this week, so I'm gonna go with the one that's... Not this week! The least... Damn, this is hitting home for you then. This is too The one that is least like a wedge salad is the one I'm gonna pick. Absolutely. Fuck a wedge salad. Yeah, I'm going caprese also, and I want my caprese with an heirloom tomato. That's how I want it. Oh, yeah, that's what's up. Yeah, I like your style, Jen.

Next one is a wine slushie or a movie theater blue slushie movie theater blue I Was as I mentioned on the Cape Cod of Massachusetts, which is like the beach area This past week and I got a frozen rosé at this like beachside cabana not the first day some fried seafood and if it's pink and frozen and then when I drink it it doesn't taste like pink lemonade it tastes like wine that makes me want to die I mean, I'm so upset. It looks like it's gonna taste so good

and then it just tastes like wine, which is fine, and I get it. It's a Frosay. I knew what I was getting myself into, but I want my pink slushie to taste like Red Dye 40 and sugar. Yeah, I feel like... So, the blue slushie from the movie theater, thank you. Yeah, I feel like if you're having something slushie or blended up, I feel like you want it to be refreshing. There's nothing refreshing about wine in that way. Do you know what I mean?

The SWAMP (36:00.086)
I'm gonna go blue slushy as well. I was gonna say wine slushy because every time we go to the Ren Fair, I'm always the designated driver. So I never get to have the Frosé. But after the review it's gotten, I think I'm just gonna go blue slushy. Classic, you can't go wrong. Maybe I'm not missing out. Maybe I'm wrong. Frosé at the Ren Fair, I feel like it should be like mead. It should be like frozen mead slushy. And that would be fucking gas. That would be so good.

You're onto something here. The alcohol at the rent fair is always bullshit. It's always expensive and not that good. Just like any other event. So, they are making the case for being the DD. Yeah, real. I'll go with the movie theater blue as well. I have never had a wine slushie. I'm sure, I feel like I would like it though. Never pay taxes or never pay for your gas.

I don't drive that much actually Maybe if I never paid for my gas though, I'd become like I'd go on the road, you know really take advantage of that and Maybe I don't know. Yeah convert to like oil energy for all my stuff. So I don't have to pay I don't I don't know how I could take advantage of that But I will probably pick I think not paying taxes would probably benefit me more But I don't know we you know It it sucks and give money to the government and then seeing what they do with it. It fucking sucks

But you know you got to give pay forward to strengthen your communities because there are some good organizations trying to do stuff without money, too So taxes are bad, but also maybe good Sometimes depending on who's in office. That's my thought on taxes I would like to not pay them just like Bruce Willis and Armageddon

When he's like, I'll go into space, but when I come back, I'm not paying taxes. He was real for that. I'm going no taxes, especially, yeah, like you said, considering the state of the world and what our money is going to. I'm not really a big fan. Yeah, until I can decide what my taxes get earmarked for, I'm going to say no taxes until like I can decide what what my taxes pay for. actually, like I want my taxes earmarked for.

The SWAMP (38:15.022)
education or health insurance or something. And not like bombs to send to a foreign country to like commit out a genocide. It's just like, not super chill. Also, I feel like I pay more in taxes than I do for gas in a given year. Oh, yeah, probably. Yeah, same. I'm going to go never pay taxes. Next one. Dune part one, Dune part two. Dune part two. Yeah, two. I haven't seen either.

Ooh, you're nuts for that, Erin. That is crazy. I'm going to pick part two because, Dara, you once told me it was the Dark Knight of that particular franchise. So I'm going to rely on that. I'm hoping that it will sort of live on the same par as, you know, the Dune trilogy once he finishes with this third movie. I think will sort of match the pacing. I project, but we'll see. We'll see about Dune Messiah.

Yeah, I heard the early rumors that Dune Messiah is going to win all the Oscars that they didn't give to one and two. That one shocked me the slightest. That's what happened with Lord of the Rings. That's exactly the reference they're making. Yeah. commemorate the trilogy, just dump on the third one, even though the first two are probably more noteworthy. Even though Fellowship probably deserved it more than Return of the King did, in my opinion.

I will go with Dune part two though for sure. The next one, so I have a coworker whose husband makes his own peanut butter and she said they have jalapeno peanut butter and espresso peanut butter. Espresso peanut butter does sound like something that I would be willing to try. Jalapeno peanut butter is really perplexing me. I think the only thing I could think to use that for would be like Thai cooking. I just say that.

Like something like that, but I wouldn't really know how to approach that. So I'll go for the espresso peanut butter. Yeah, I'm going to go espresso peanut butter with this, I think as well. Yeah, I agree if I have to eat it in like a sandwich or on a cracker. But Dara, when you mentioned using it as like a peanut sauce, that intrigues me. Like I would not eat it like as a scoop, but in something else, some creative dish. With some vinegar and other stuff. Sounds really good.

The SWAMP (40:34.126)
Yeah, I'm going to go with the espresso peanut butter. When she told me I gasped, was like, oh, that sounds really good. Next next one is a strawberry shortcake or an angel food cake with strawberries on the top. What is really the difference? Well, the strawberry shortcake is that little round. It's a biscuit. Vanilla.

It's that round vanilla cake thing that you buy in the store. just made of angel food cake. it's not. angel food is something completely different, right? I don't really know. guess I'm not well versed enough in strawberry shortcakes. I feel like I always think of it as being like a biscuit. On a biscuit, Yeah, like it's like a sweet biscuit and then the cream and the strawberries. So guess I'll just pick strawberry shortcake. But I am thinking of the children's toy. The girl. The character.

Yeah, I'm gonna go angel food cake for sure. I would pick strawberry shortcake if it was like the biscuit with ice cream. Otherwise, I think like that cup thing is the same as angel food cake, like taste-wise, even if it's something different. What's like a sponge cake? Yeah, it's like a sponge cake and an angel cake. don't know. Well, Jen, we'll see you next week and goodbye. Bye. Bye.

I'd to know, okay, there's a lot of things in this movie that are like crazy stunts and everything like that. My whole thing that I was probably most put off by was the wading through the water and the rats. I wanna know if anyone here feels like they could get there. Like could one of you jump into the petrol filled water and wade through all of those rats?

to get this job done. Not in a pencil skirt and heels. That was crazy work. Ain't no way. If I was with Henry, my husband deals with mice on, not rats, but mice on a daily basis. And I know mice and rats are really different, but I feel like he'd be really brave about it. So I feel like maybe I could get through it. You'd be really brave about it.

The SWAMP (42:47.79)
What movie is it where they do the torture method if they put the box and then they put the rat in the box and they light the box on fire and the rat is gonna... Oh, they do it in Game of Thrones. ...pour its way into your stomach. That's just what I feel like a Saw movie move. When rats get ferocious like that and you think about a rat really trying to eat you, that is nasty. Yeah, the clawing through the coffin and everything like that while they're hiding under it, that...

But there's a bunch of stuff about the rat actors and you need to get specific rats for movies because they need to be girls, because the boy wants to have huge testicles, but you also can't just get bulk rats. They need to be healthy rats. So they breed rats en masse for films like this, because it's not that expensive to just breed a ton of rats and be like, OK, now we have all the girl rats. OK, now we can do our rat scene.

but it's just an interesting thing. I always think about horse actors too. This movie had some excellent horse acting. There was a scene where a horse was getting fucking shot at from a tank. A tank was firing cannons at a horse and coming pretty close. There's nothing in the world that has you needing to do that. And I love it.

They were like, they're like, we're here on set today. What else can we do? Yeah, come on. They're like, we've got the desert booked for another three weeks. Should we do some more horse stunts? We got to lay it on thick, guys. We've the tank rented for another week or so. Let's let's let's just another take. Let's do it. No one wants to get their asses onto location to film anymore. OK, we're putting up tents in the desert in the middle of America.

and we're doing some tank shots and it's going to take a long time to film and it's going to be expensive. But it looks so good. It just looks so much better than not selling Someone's coming away with dysentery. It might be our leading man. Well, that was just because they were in what country? Yeah, they all got sick in Tunisia from drinking untreated water because their American systems couldn't handle the untreated.

The SWAMP (45:09.75)
Tunisian water and they all got, you know, to Harrison Ford got dysentery and shot everywhere. Shocking. But I think this movie was probably filmed mostly in America, I would guess. There was less, it was more like Western type shots than like full on desert, I would say. scenes at the end at Petra, think were actually filmed outside Petra for the external stuff, but for like the inside the temple things.

That was a movie set for sure. Yeah. Yeah. When it broke and it was like that goofy ass way, the floor like caved in. bombed Petra. We destroyed this, you know, historically relevant site for our movie. It's for the art, guys. Is that one of the wonders of the world? I don't think so. It is a very famous site just because of how striking it is. It's like carved out of this cliff face. Because I know, yeah, there are...

the wonders of the world, but there are only a certain number of them that are still left, right? And I felt like that was one of the ones we still had, but maybe I'm wrong. It's like what, the pyramids? No, it's not officially one. It's one of the new seven wonders or whatever, which... uh-oh. The 10 wonders, we bumped it Yeah. I do think that this movie probably wouldn't have worked if it weren't for like the chemistry between the actors, like...

There is, you're right, there's some Looney Tunes shit, but it works, because these two are just so much fun to put in Looney Tune-ass situations. Sean Connery, I feel, I really wanna go on a kick now, because I don't feel like I've seen a lot of Sean Connery, honestly. I haven't watched any of his Bond. I was about to say, this genuinely made me interested in trying out a Sean Connery Bond film. Like, I...

I don't have much familiarity with the Bond franchise. I've only seen the one. I think it was the second ever swap episode and we got shadowbanned for talking about cock and ball torture. Sorry. Still want to contest that with them. Yeah. The only other one that's really worth watching is Skyfall.

The SWAMP (47:18.606)
Um, but yeah, like that's all the Daniel Craig ones. I haven't seen anything besides the Daniel Craig ones. Yeah. It comes up in trivia a lot. It's a good thing to know on a trivia team. You need a bond guy. And the same way that you need, you need a sports guy. You need a bond guy for sure. You need to become the bond guy then, Derek. You're the bond girl. No, no, I got to work on it. I got to do the homework. I had to put it in the work. I usually, that's what I'm saying. I usually take arts and pop culture. That's my.

That's my corner. Yeah, that falls into arts and pop culture. Oh, but I'm I need to outsource for some things. I don't know, man. I'll take the bulls. I guess. Which one have I seen? I've seen one Sean Connery Bond movie and it was which one was it? It was Goldfinger because that's the movie with the character named Pussy Galore.

And I had to hear Sean Connery say the word pussy over and over and over again. So good. That's Cher. Pussy go away. Snap out of it. Imagine Sean Connery saying wagon wheel with toosie. Wagon wheel with toosie.

I also like that he was fully Scottish, but Harrison Ford just is American. They're like, we're not addressing that. We're not gonna try this. They're like, he was estranged. He went to school and became his own man, okay? Of course. Of course he wouldn't have the same accent as his father. Dad came right off the boat, guys. I don't know what to tell you. Fun fact here. So Sean Connery played an Egyptian immortal in the Highlander movies. Yes. Here we've got...

fellow Scotsman Jonathan Rhys Davies also playing an Egyptian guy for some reason. Yeah, I'm like, why did they put that fez on John Rhys Davies? And they like made a joke that they're like, he's a man who can blend into any culture seamlessly. were talking about That was Marcus. Yeah, Marcus. I do love that cut to him in the market. Yeah, they're like awkward bumbling. No, I see. I assume they were talking about John Rhys Davies because they're like,

The SWAMP (49:33.998)
That's a white Scottish guy who they just put a fez on and are telling you is from any country. Because they also did that in the first movie too, did they not? Well yeah, they did set him up for it, yes. I do believe, like my personal fake fan theory is that Jonathan Reeves Davies' character actually is a Scottish man. He just went to Egypt, fell in love with an Egyptian woman and just went absolutely ham to assimilate into his wife's, you know.

culture, which is probably too generous a reading of it. Yeah, honestly. But I love that. Yeah. No, I like I like that thought too. Instead of it being like a little racist, it's like, but what if it was nice? That's a good that's a good way to say nice. What if he's being really supportive? if he's being a really supportive husband? Because it's Gimli, you know, I want to give him some leeway. But just putting that man in that fez was really toeing a line. Yeah.

Yeah, almost. I mean, yeah, it's it's on the cusp. I also love a blimp. I love that we got some blimp action. was crazy. A dirigible. We love to see representation for different kinds of aircraft. It looks like a beautiful seating section. Like that looks like you get great service. was not too crowded. Fancy as fuck. I would ride that blimp. So that scene, the no ticket scene, Dara, that was.

our grandfather's favorite movie scene of all time. That and the scene from the Godfather, know, leave the gun, take the cannoli. Those two scenes he would quote all the time. Yeah. Oh, stop. This is a very like dad slash grandpa movie, feel. Easily. Which is- comfort movie. But I feel like, you know, it's about fatherhood, but I also feel like Indiana Jones is very much like-

Steven Spielberg makes like family couch movies, know, like shit you watch on Friday night, family movie night with your family. Like. ABC family would have gone crazy on this if they could have gotten the rights. Exactly. So I feel like, I don't know, the fatherhood feeling is strong with this film. Absolutely. Not to transition to fuck Mary Kil, after we're talking about the beauty of family. Well, I mean, fatherhood feeling, I could get into that.

The SWAMP (51:52.18)
The feeling of Sean Connery, but maybe also Harrison Ford because I did them both. Oops. I mean, what if I was your assistant and I wasn't a Nazi? That would be even cooler. Exactly. How's the girls choose? I did not like, I think the chemistry. mean, obviously they weren't trying to go for chemistry between Harrison Ford and what's her name? Miss Duty. know, because it was supposed to be like they.

it's spicy and then they fuck but then she turns but then you know he still like seems kind of forgiving towards her during like the more conflict heavy i don't know sections and then they have you know they don't really reconcile like fully because she does die at the end and like yes but he is trying to save her life right yeah he's like he's still trying to help her and he's still trying to save her and he like kind of tears her out you know she's like

I don't like this stuff. And it's like, okay. And he's like trying to hear her out and he kind of lets her go. Whatever they were trying to do with all that. I'm like, we could have kind of cut maybe some of this part of the movie, just make her be fully evil. Like once she turns, just have her be like, like, fuck her. We're trying to kill her now too. What is this like weird sympathy, middle ground bullshit. don't know. Whatever. But then there was like also this like, she like comes up on him and like, and like, you know, kisses him and like kind of forces herself on him.

and then makes it obvious that she slept with them both and does a little cheeky thing. And that's why after that point, I'm like, why is he ever behaving towards her with kindness? Yeah, entertaining any of this is crazy. I don't know. It's tough, because I'm like, who else do we pit with these two? Obviously, it's Harrison Ford and Sean Connery as our fuck-Mary kill, but we need one what about Marcus? Yeah, I guess I'll

can't kill Mar- I can't kill- I'd kill Marcus. Yeah, yeah. If I had to. I'm gonna marry Sean Connery. I is the most ethical either in his collections. I'm gonna fuck Indiana Jones. I'm gonna marry his dad. I'm his stepmom now, Exactly. then I'm gonna kill Marcus, easy. Yeah, I have to agree with you. That's, I think, the right answer. What about you, Erin?

The SWAMP (54:09.198)
This might be just a sweep. just is kind of too easy of a choice. Except I do with the reputations of both Indiana Jones and James Bond with women. Do I really want to be married to either of these guys? No. That is the question. Maybe I marry Sala. He seems to love his wife. His beautiful Egyptian wife. You could be his white Egyptian wife who also is going so ham on assimilating.

Yeah. Oh my gosh, she's going to drag me down this hole of cultural appropriation where I don't need to be. Maybe I marry Marcus. You know, he's a museum director. Could be. Hey, hey. I can see that working for you. Yeah, I'm looking so bad. There's really no one else who is like really notably fuckable. It was there. They were mostly like Nazis. were like mostly Nazis.

thousand year old night in the cave. would give him one last goodbye, know? One last sayonara. He's gonna crumble into dust. He can't do it, he's too old. Go Nancy Reagan on his ass. Oh my god. No, more like Jackie Kennedy, I'm like chewing on that sheet metal. I'm chewing on his chainmail.

The SWAMP (55:31.48)
What are you guys? You're hanging out with your boys. You're watching Indiana Jones with your boys. What are you eating and drinking?

I am inspired by my father. This is a movie about dads. It's a dad movie. I'm like, I would probably be watching this movie with my family. you know, in this theoretical scenario, I'm like probably hanging out with Gary and Gary loves bacon wrapped scallops and white wine. And these are these are two things that evoke my father to me.

And I feel like that would be a good pairing if we're doing like, we're doing a father's day last crusade party. That's gonna be the theme. It is a good, yeah, I like that. I'm gonna go, I had some really amazing, I had, what are they?

oatmeal Heath cookies while I watched this. this is a, like you said, this is, I think this is comfort movie. I watched this movie a ton growing up, obviously with my brother. But yeah, I'm gonna go with a good milk and cookies movie for me. I think it's what Sean Connery would want in this movie.

I will shout out. would want to go ape shit on some fucking cookies with me. If anyone out there, we don't need to be promoting the New York crimes, but I will put in the description below. I've I am not good at baking, but I have come to a cookie situation that I feel comfortable bringing to the function now. Like we can do from scratch cookies because of this recipe and it fucking hits. You make the balls of cookie dough.

The SWAMP (57:10.51)
pretty big and the key is you put them in the freezer for like 15 minutes before baking them and then you start baking them and then every like five minutes or so you take the tray out and you bang it on the table so that it like deflates so they become like nice and thin and wide but like still soft in the middle. Perfect cookie technique described in a way that made a lot of sense to me in this one particular recipe. put it's, I've been feeling good about my ability to make cookies as of late.

I've had these and they're fucking They're pretty gas, yeah. What about you, Erin? You're hosting a little last crusade. Crusade. What are we fueling? I do think this is like a snack movie. Like you've got a tray of snacks and stuff. But if I'm honoring my father, my dad often has a giant bowl of popcorn sometimes. Fuck yeah. He's got this like that silicone popcorn bowl where you put like a bunch of

popcorn kernels at the bottom of it and then you microwave it and the silicone bowl makes the popcorn for you. Like it's very easy. I'm thinking popcorn. I thought you were going to talk about the quintessential like.

like white person pop, you know the joke about like the throw up slash popcorn bowl. Like white people are so nasty, have the throw up slash popcorn bucket. We did used to have it. was, it was the throw up bucket. It was the Halloween candy bucket. was the popcorn bucket. know that. Yeah. No,

That's a cool, I didn't know about custom popcorn popping, because I usually just go for the bag, but I have a coworker who was recently shouting out buying popcorn kernels, because you can get the higher quality ones, so that when they pop, there is no kernel. know how there's still kind of some, the shit that gets in your teeth, that hurt the kernel? You can buy nice popcorn that doesn't have that, but you just have to pop it the old way.

The SWAMP (59:12.536)
Popcorn the old way very intriguing to me, but something I don't really do too much because I love a jiffy pop and so easy I grew up with an air popper It was really old that was the thing it doesn't feel fancy to me It's just like we it's like from it's whims of seventies. Yeah. Yeah exactly. She's got a lot of heart It's one of those things that you put too much popcorn in it

it wouldn't work and it would start smoking. So you have to really measure it well. She's stroking out. Yeah, exactly. Graves starts showing a little pin. Yeah, no, this is a classic popcorn movie for sure. Like in the way, I want to put the M &Ms in the popcorn. Yeah, like really do up the popcorn with all the flavors. Yes. And what are you guys going to watch after this? Cut.

dry, this is simple for me. We watched, we watched the Temple of Doom. I said, should watch National Treasure. We watched The Last Crusade. I say you should watch National Treasure 2, Book of Secrets. It's a- the girl that stays on theme. It's a notable action adventure follow-up film. Yes. Does it deliver in the same way this one does? Absolutely not. Not even close. Like not even a little bit. But-

are we gonna watch Ed Harris die inside of Mount Rushmore? Yes. Yeah, we are. So... And that's also the kind of, you know, if I have... My belly is full of scallops and I'm hanging out with Gary, that's the kind of movie I wanna put on. I'm also gonna stay on theme. And I actually just recently rewatched this movie, so it's perfect. But Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

well, yes. It's another quest. It's so brilliant. mean, it's dumb as shit. There, you have to have seen this, right? So I have not sat my ass down and watched it, but I've had to watch segments of it, like, for school. Obviously, So I've done, like, school shit about Monty Python and, watched, you know, YouTube segments of it, for assignments and stuff, but I've never really watched the whole thing. I've, I've...

The SWAMP (01:01:30.062)
Seeing what's the one is it called? The life of life of Brian. I've seen that one. I haven't seen that one. I feel like I kind of get the I get the gist of what Monty Python is about. Yeah. Yeah. I am hesitant towards it. But that's and that's fair. I'm trying to work. You know, it's like mustard and pickles. I'm just going to have to keep working at it until I come around to liking it. I think you would I think you could appreciate.

The Holy Grail. And where do you stand on this movie? I'm a fan of The Holy Grail. I don't know if it's because of nostalgia, though, because that is a movie that we grew up with. Yeah. Well, it's so stupid. It's the perfect like you're like 13 and you think you're like grown up. And this is like one of those ones that you're like, this is grown up humor. It's not. It's not remotely. No. And it is a movie that the the men in my life.

quote incessantly, not as much anymore, but when I was younger, like the guys I around would beat this thing to death. Yeah, that's kind of why I think I stray away from it. There's a certain type of annoying man who really likes Monty Python who I don't really gel with. That's what makes me wary. And that's a fair assessment. Not wary, just, know, No, no, wary is a good way to put it.

What are following up? It's worth a watch though. Yeah, my follow up, I think there is like a set of movies that I kind of consider to be in the same genre. So Indiana Jones is definitely one of them. National Treasure is definitely among them. We are adventure. I would probably add The Mummy and I would probably. was just thinking that. Because we're also doing like archaeology or like some sort of like artifact discovery in all of these films as of a period piece like that. They happen in the early 1900s as well, I think.

And for some reason, Knight at the Museum. because artifacts, museums. Yeah. Like there's a flavor to it that makes it make sense. Exactly. And I have nothing but respect for Ben Stiller ever since I watched Severance. I think about that man a little differently. Yeah. Can't be too mad at him. And then what are we giving this out of 10? I'm going to give it an 8. Yeah, an 8. I just rated it on letterbox. I gave her a 4. Yeah, I it was great.

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Erin? Realistically, probably a seven, but in my heart, it's a 10 out of 10. This is a nostalgia. A nostalgia piece for me. Good. I love that. stars. There was somebody who recently asked about our letterbox. They asked if we had a swamp letterbox. And I said, nah, because this is just, this is our living, breathing letterbox. follow me. This is this podcast. Literally. I put our two, letterbox in the description below, but I think I should start putting Henry's too.

Please, if it passes the Hank test. I love the way Henry, my husband, approaches Letterboxd. He's very consistent. His rule is that it's a pass-fail system. It's not, he's like, we're not doing stars, we're not doing half stars, it's five or it's zero. It's a pass-fail. Did I watch the movie? And it's more about, you know, his comments and what he writes, and you know, it says something very silly. But I appreciate the objectivity. There are movies that have not passed. It's not like...

They all are five stars, but they are most like 95 % of the time it's five star. Yeah, I feel like it's hard to give Hank a real stinker. So there I feel like there also has been discourse and again, I don't know if this is just like rage bait, but I feel like I've been seeing shit on Twitter about people talking about how it's tacky behavior to take out your phone and immediately do your letterbox review while you're still in the theater.

Like they're like, they're like, the credits are rolling and you're already logging your letterbox. Like that's tacky. But I'm like, I think this was just right bait to get me to engage with this content because who actually gives a fuck? who, actually gives a fuck? Also somebody said something about the merch. They're like, it's so tacky to wear a letterbox merch. You would never wear an Instagram hat. You would never wear a Facebook hat. I'm like, it's different. Okay. It's different because it's cool.

This is a hobby. It's a hobby. Letterboxd doesn't run the world and control election results. There go. Exactly. Thank you, Erin. You tell them. Well said. I just, I love, I got all of my somewhat anti-social media friends into Letterboxd, you know, because they were wary about the social aspect of it at first, but then I'm like, no, you just like can totally just engage with it like a diary. But then they like, I think now having like a little close network of

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Letterboxd people who you're always liking each other's reviews. I love keeping up. I'm like, what is this person watching? Love to check that shit. So anyways, Letterboxd rant. Those links will be in the description below. Erin, thank you so much for being here as always on The Swamp. I'm sure we'll see you again for another semi-period piece-esque history adjacent influence, probably just the Da Vinci Code. can probably just say with some certainty that we're probably going to do the Da Vinci Code.

and yeah, rounding out Steven Spielberg summer. Let us know what you think we should cover in the future. Thanks for tuning in everyone. Other themes, whatever, listening. Thank you for doing so and have a lovely rest of your week and get outside. Be in the sun. Get some vitamin D if you can, but also wear sunscreen because that is important too. Yes. And no joke. Wear sunscreen please, thank you.